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Checking Benefits for Nutrition Counseling–How, Why?

Unfortunately, it isn’t obvious on many health plans that you can see a licensed dietitian, the healthcare professional trained in working with people to reverse many of the leading causes of disease and death in the US, such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

Many plans did not cover this service until recent years or after the Affordable Care Act’s mandates for coverage for obesity and those at risk for diet-related disease.

Now, many plans do cover, but it hasn’t made it to common knowledge or insurance benefits packets.  It isn’t in the automated phone message system either.  You have to speak to a customer service representative by calling the number on the back of your insurance ID card.

Perhaps if everyone knew about it, there would be too much business?  I’m not sure why it isn’t advertised with your insurance.  It is cheaper to see a dietitian a few times a year outside of the hospital than to have bypass surgery in a few years with associated hospital fees.

How to check nutrition counseling benefits:

  1. Turn over your insurance ID card and call the number.
  2. Choose Medical.  Not dental or behavioral health
  3. Supply your insurance ID and date of birth.  If given these ahead of your visit, we can sometimes help verify benefits if not busy.  You should check yourself so you can hear it for yourself.
  4. Eligibility and Benefits.  Sometimes you have to select “office visit” or “outpatient service” or “specialist.”
  5. State “nutrition counseling” into the voice system–you probably won’t hear it in a list of automated services
  6. Ask about CPT codes 97802, 97803, 97804 (individual initial, individual follow-up, group, respectively).
  7. Ask if you need a referral or preauthorization for the service.  Only some plans require this.
    1. Referrals can take a few days to a week to get from your physician’s office and may or may not require you visit your Primary Care Physician (PCP) first for a visit.  If you schedule a visit and cancel in less than 24 hours because you “just find out” you need a referral, you will still be charged a missed visit fee for reserving business hours. It is the patient’s responsibility to be aware of his or her plan’s rules and only reserve professional time when ready to have the service rendered after plan requirements are met.  We accept and bill your insurance as a courtesy and are aware of many plans that require referrals from experience, but not ALL plans in existance!  Sometimes plan rules change year to year.  Remember, it is YOUR plan, so know the rules for it!
    2. Preauthorization can take a day or two.
      1. If you don’t have a referral or preauthorization prior to your visit and your plan requires it, the service will be denied, and you will be responsible for payment.  We will aid in preauthorization requests, but will only confirm referrals if notified your plan requires them.  Referrals must be on file with the insurance company if your insurance company requires a referral.  Informal physician referrals are not required to be on file with the insurance company if your insurance doesn’t require a referral for the service.
  8. Ask if there are any excluded ICD-10 diagnosis codes (some plans only cover diabetes or kidney disease, others cover dietary counseling and surveillance, e.g. Z71.3 code, others cover obesity and overweight codes).
  9. Get a confirmation reference number for the call and restate your understood coverage back to the representative.  If preauthorization or referral is required, get the additional preauthorization and referral number.

We do our best to check benefits for patients with plans we are not familiar with as well, but this needs to be a joint effort to limit surprise fees that we do not like issuing nor you like paying, including late cancel fees or self-pay fees for services that would be denied due to no referral or preauthorization.

Self-pay is going to be more expensive than insurance coverage, and you should always be prepared to self-pay even if 90% (yes!) of our patients receive coverage when they properly check their benefits and follow the rules on coverage.

If you cannot make your appointment, you can reschedule at no penalty if done >24 hours of your visit by emailing or calling and leaving a message.



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Telehealth and Nutrition Counseling in 2017

The Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) recognizes the place of service code ’02,’ which allows telehealth as a place of service.  Codes licensed dietitians can use to bill insurance include 97802, 97803, and 97804, which are recognized as billable with telehealth according to the CMS website.  Other codes can be seen in the same link (if you are a healthcare practitioner reading this who isn’t a dietitian).

Certain requirements must be met, including using secure software for teleconferencing up to HIPAA standards, an approved originating site, and being an approved distant site practitioner.  According to the CMS website on page 2, an approved originating site can be a physician or healthcare practitioner’s office, which means wherever the practitioner defines his/her office, the telehealth requirement can be met.

Other approved originating sites include “hospitals, critical access hospitals (CAHs), rural health clinics, federally qualified health centers, hospital-based or CAH-based renal dialysis centers (including satellites), skilled nursing facilities (SNFs), and community mental health centers (CMHCs).”

Additionally, the same previously mentioned link also states registered dietitians or nutrition professionals, depending on who is allowed to practice in your state and receive insurance reimbursements, are eligible practitioners to furnish telehealth services.

Other non-dietitian distant site practitioners can be “physicians, nurse practitioners (NPs), physician assistants (PAs), nurse-midwives, clinical nurse specialists (CNSs), certified registered nurse anesthetists, clinical psychologists (CPs)*, and clinical social workers (CSWs)*.”  *CPs and CSWs have limitations.

Unfortunately, dietitians in private practice can only perform telehealth services if the beneficiary (the patient) is at an originating site.  This means patients must still go to their healthcare practitioner’s office to receive the service.  Private payers (non Medicare/Medicaid insurance) may have their own rules, but often Medicare is the example.

 You should check with your private payer for their rules if interested in telehealth over traditional face to face services.

Real time communication, as opposed to delayed communication like email, must be used unless in Alaska or Hawaii.  If billing, a modifier ‘GT’ or ‘GQ’ must be used.  The former states that the service was done “via interactive audio and video telecommunications systems” whereas the latter states it was done “via an asynchronous telecommunications system.”  (same reference link above)

Both the originating site and the distant site practitioner receive payment.


While it is important that communications remain secure, I had hoped telehealth would be implemented in a way that could save healthcare costs and improve access.  Since the originating site must be one of the aforementioned sites (assume for security, not sure), telehealth is still not as convenient as it could be.

A patient must still go to an originating site rather than being able to have the service done via webcam from the convenience of their home or their office.

On the plus side, distant site practitioners can partner with the aforementioned healthcare originating sites to provide covered services.  This DOES improve access for people in rural areas who may not have as easy access to specialists who are allowed to receive reimbursement for telehealth.

At Nutrition and Fitness Professional, LLC, we are available to work with healthcare practitioners who wish to refer their patients via telehealth for medical nutrition therapy (codes 97802, 97803, 97804) and use Google Meet as our secure HIPAA compliant video conferencing platform as well as other G Suite approved HIPAA compliant apps.

It is not necessary for the originating site to have access to G Suite in order for the service to be performed as the client only needs to click on a Google Calendar link.

For specific questions, please contact us.



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Repeal of ObamaCare and Possible Effect on Your Nutrition Counseling Benefit

At the time this is written, it is still too early to tell whether or not the replacement for the Affordable Care Act will result in the loss of coverage for preventative healthcare services or not.  President Trump has stated that some parts of the healthcare law will remain.

What worries me, as a practice and business that highly uses insurance-based nutrition counseling benefits, is that the loss of the mandate will mean insurance companies could cut their coverage for the services I do unless you have a formal physician referral for a specific medical condition.

Currently, most people do not know (and your insurance company is very evasive in letting you know) that you MAY (about 80% of my clients) get 100% coverage before you even meet your (enormous) deductible for preventative nutrition counseling, unless you have a grandfathered plan from before the Affordable Care Act.

Specifically, I can use a preventative code as a dietitian for preventative services with many insurance plans that results in no copay or coinsurance (yea, too good to be true, right?).

As a licensed dietitian in private practice, I am not allowed to diagnose any specific medical condition and am restricted to using a preventative code or a BMI code (because it is a calculation) to support coverage for nutrition counseling.

This allows individuals to just see me to work on their health rather than having to go do extra work and get other diagnosis codes from their physician, which may be subject to copays, coinsurance, your (huge) deductible, and cost to see your physician for the diagnosis (which also costs money!).

If ObamaCare is repealed, then I sincerely hope that the clause that allows coverage for nutrition services (CPT codes 97802/3/4 medical nutrition therapy) with a preventative ICD-10 code remains for a few reasons:

  1. Individuals who are overweight or obese without a formal diagnosis of a comorbidity (medical condition) face a financial barrier to getting on track with the professional who can literally reverse their condition without drugs or surgery.  Removing this barrier can be a huge boon to getting people in the door who need to work on themselves before they use a cop out excuse like “it is too expensive.”  Individuals WANTING to make a change to their diet and exercise habits needing legitimate information need all the support getting into my office they can get (a whole other blog post on the swamp of misinformation non-degreed fitness professionals give out about weight loss that you probably already self-pay for in personal training sessions).
  2. America pays more for the disease than the prevention.  Small fires are easier to put out than blazing forest fires.  This is a metaphor to saying overweight is easier to treat than type 2 diabetes, surgeon fees for coronary artery bypass, chronic kidney disease dialysis procedures, and pharmaceuticals for band-aid-fixing diseases that can be cured with lifestyle change.  Supporting the healthcare professional, through health insurance, that facilitates lifestyle change is supporting a registered dietitian and exercise physiologist (me).
  3. If my practice dwindles due to the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, I promise you that isn’t because everyone is healthy all of a sudden.  It is because there would not be coverage.  Even though the price of my services is inexpensive compared to what your surgeon or primary care physician costs, many people feel they are already paying for healthcare with their premiums, so they should not have to pay a dime more.  One of the major ways to have more coverage for services is if your premium is higher, to my knowledge.
  4. Loss of coverage for nutrition services would be a step backward in fighting many of the health problems that are easily treated by diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes.
  5. In appeal of Trump’s love for small business owners, as a small business owner, I have spent my blood, sweat, and tears slaving over my private practice for the past 3 years learning how to facilitate coverage for my services through health insurance for the benefit of helping clients and making a living myself.  By no means am I getting rich doing this.  I still work 7 days a week with a part time job seeing clients with my business and through an employer.  I have good success with the clients I do see (they let me know, or I see it myself).  I deserve to not have what I have built over 3 years burnt down just through a change in government administration.  I deserve to not have the rug pulled out from under my feet.  Not enough people are even using the benefit yet, nor is it advertised well enough through your health insurance company (probably because they think they lose money in the short term).

I agree the healthcare law is not perfect.  As a small business owner who is single, male and over age 26, I pay for my own health insurance through the Exchange without a husband or wife with a full time job with benefits a spouse can get on.  It is one of my biggest expenses next to paying for office space in Austin.

However, I also realize that as someone who is extremely fit, healthy, and barely uses his health insurance for anything except my flu shot and annual physical, I am paying for others who are not as fortunate as me to have the knowledge I do about nutrition and exercise and the desire to live the lifestyle.  And I’m fine with this.  I have no issues with it.  I can budget my money well if others need to use their health insurance more.

I know other young people are not aligned with this idea, and I do see the opinion that they feel they pay too much in premiums for something they don’t use and that as healthy people, they shouldn’t have to foot others’ healthcare bills who don’t care as much about their health as they do.

Clearly this is a complicated issue, and it is good that people can stay on their parents’ health insurance until age 26 and that 20 million more people actually have some coverage, but Americans also do not like paying for each other’s healthcare, and that is also a valid opinion.

I urge you to reach out to your representatives and senators with your concerns about the healthcare law reform.  If you are reading this post, you might care a little about preventative healthcare coverage and/or nutrition counseling coverage.  Please don’t be silent during this time when our voices need to be heard.

When it comes to nutrition counseling, Americans deserve legitimate information from a trained, degree-holding, licensed professional who is an expert on the subject and adept at working with individuals and groups.  Americans deserve the right to avert disease before it starts.  Americans deserve the right to prevent further healthcare costs down the road by taking action to a healthier lifestyle now, and they do not need additional financial barriers put in the way merely as a way to myopically cut costs and keep campaign promises.  Long term, it does not save.  Long term, we lose.

Yes, if you cut nutrition counseling, health insurance companies will save a little bit of money now.  But if you cut nutrition counseling long term, disease rates will go up and healthcare costs go up.  Clearly this is not a simple issue and needs to be considered carefully as a new healthcare law is implemented.

Edit 02/07/2017: A professional colleague alerted me to former President Obama’s recent article published in the New England Journal of Medicine on the possible repercussions and irresponsibility of repealing the ACA without a better replacement that is openly discussed first since posting this yesterday.

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17 Reasons People Eat

Some people prefer calorie counting, others like the hand portion size approach, and others like intuitive eating.  It is also myopic to think that people are overeating meat portions, vegetable portion sizes, and grain portion sizes as opposed to junk food portion sizes and alcohol.  Sure, it can happen, in a few cases, I guess.

Believe it or not, in nutrition counseling, I DON’T spend time educating people on the fact that one cup of broccoli equals one serving.  Most people aren’t overweight from eating solid, nutritiously balanced meals of real food, and many who aren’t overweight aren’t using calorie counting or use hand portion methods.

These are what I find are 17 reasons people eat.  The summary is that they are not hungry.  Never fear, there are not clickbait ads you have to scroll through a slide show to scan through all of these!

  1. Eating to socialize with others.
  2. Eating to avoid talking with others.  Social anxieties are common, and food is comforting as well as something to look like you are doing something.
  3. Eating when drinking alcohol.  It’s just something you do.  Some people smoke here, too.
  4. Eating when watching TV because you eat when you watch TV.  That’s just something you do.
  5. It is someone’s birthday at work (when is it not?) and there is cake.  You wouldn’t want to be disrespectful of their birthday, now would you?
  6. Becky/Mom/Grandma/Chad made cookies for you.  You’ll hurt her/his feelings if you don’t have them NOW and show how much you appreciate their effort.
  7. It’s a holiday.  Don’t be a party pooper by not eating with us.
  8. It’s time to eat.  It is 12p.  I must consume food now because it is “lunch time.”
  9. It’s after 7p.  I am not allowed to eat (and may feel guilty doing so), but I’m going to rebel against whoever made this rule (I don’t support this rule) and eat something off the record because I can.  Who are you, my mother?  I’ll eat whatever I want!
  10. Being told you cannot have something to eat, like a poptart, is a good reason to go have it and get off on your feeling of rebellion.  You showed them!
  11. Fear of not having food for a long period of time, so better eat more now.
  12. Overeating when starving.
  13. You worked out, so you deserve food now.
  14. You worked out and have been told there is a scientific yet magic 30 minute window of opportunity during which you will not benefit from any of your workout unless you eat now to avoid going all “catabolic.”
  15. Because you are emotionally drained, you eat in hopes it will give you energy.
  16. It tastes good and is pleasurable.  You want more of it.
  17. Because you are actually hungry and need the nutrition.

If I missed any, please add your non-nutritive reasons you eat in the comments.



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Why Follow-Ups are Necessary in Nutrition Therapy

It is utterly impossible for anyone to teach anyone everything they need to know about nutrition and have it stick on the first session.  It is also impossible to have counseling and behavior changes occur, question beliefs, motivations, feelings, and lack of motivations with regards to food and nutrition, lifestyle, and exercise in one session.

One of the biggest failures of clients is those who go from practitioner to practitioner getting opinion after opinion from only your objective information that you fill out on our initial intake forms.  You are more than a set of health statistics.  No one is going to get to know you and figure out what is going on without building a relationship.

Nutrition counseling should be compared to therapy or personal training.  Things often don’t change in one session.  This is especially important to realize for those who use food for reasons other than physical nourishment.  Yea, you know what to do.  Then why aren’t you doing it?  That’s what this is about.  I help you figure out why you do what you do.  I help resolve ambivalence to change.

I’m not saying that sometimes I may do an excellent job and you may learn everything (ha!), but if you came for weight loss, for example, sometimes things I say may not be interpreted or implemented correctly.  Sometimes you have behaviors that are getting in the way of your weight loss.

This leads to cop outs like: “Well I tried.”  Does one time of trying count?  Sure.  However, one session sometimes doesn’t lead to the types of changes you want.  If something isn’t working, it is a sign you need to talk about it.  Why didn’t it work?  Don’t blame yourself for not holding to the results.  Most of what I think I do is figure out how to tailor messages to the individual.  Sometimes it is shooting a moving target with a blindfold on based on questions you asked and hear the answers to direct me where to shoot.

It’s like playing Marco-Polo with one “Marco” and hearing one “Polo” and wondering why we didn’t run into each other in the swimming pool (that’s the only place I ever played that game).  You may change your position in life in the mean time and have everything change.  This happens often when college students join the work force.  Previously, they were walking around between classes all day on a large campus.  Now, they sit all day.

How likely is anyone going to shoot that moving target while blindfolded on the first try?  Maybe if we use the Force? 🙂

How will you or I know that you’ve interpreted something correctly without a follow-up?

Yes, it is an investment to come more than one time, but some of the alternatives aren’t so pretty.  It’s so much easier to change behaviors now before they lead to disease than later when they cost significant medical bills and your ability to live a happy, healthy life significantly decreases.  No one likes to change, but if you think about the future, sometimes changing now isn’t so bad in comparison.

Since “fear of disease” tends to not motivate the general population as much as it does people who study health, another way to put it is this: think how happy you might be once you reach your health goals.  When you’re in that place of health, you’ll feel happier about yourself, feel confident in your body, feel able to move about the world with ease.

When I’m working with personal training clients, they figure out my system.  Each time, we try to add an exercise, add weight, or add repetitions at an existing weight.  It is a steady progression, whatever we do, and it is easy to see how doing that gives them results.  With nutrition, the same thing is needed.  You need to make small yet important changes that you are comfortable or only slightly uncomfortable making.  Once you do them, you get motivated to keep making more changes.

It is difficult to help you make those changes when a client is seen only once and goes forth with some initial tools.  Changing your lifestyle takes work.  It isn’t fun to make changes, but why not revisit and figure out what is working and what isn’t?

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