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Telehealth and Nutrition Counseling in 2017

The Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) recognizes the place of service code ’02,’ which allows telehealth as a place of service.  Codes licensed dietitians can use to bill insurance include 97802, 97803, and 97804, which are recognized as billable with telehealth according to the CMS website.  Other codes can be seen in the same link (if you are a healthcare practitioner reading this who isn’t a dietitian).

Certain requirements must be met, including using secure software for teleconferencing up to HIPAA standards, an approved originating site, and being an approved distant site practitioner.  According to the CMS website on page 2, an approved originating site can be a physician or healthcare practitioner’s office, which means wherever the practitioner defines his/her office, the telehealth requirement can be met.

Other approved originating sites include “hospitals, critical access hospitals (CAHs), rural health clinics, federally qualified health centers, hospital-based or CAH-based renal dialysis centers (including satellites), skilled nursing facilities (SNFs), and community mental health centers (CMHCs).”

Additionally, the same previously mentioned link also states registered dietitians or nutrition professionals, depending on who is allowed to practice in your state and receive insurance reimbursements, are eligible practitioners to furnish telehealth services.

Other non-dietitian distant site practitioners can be “physicians, nurse practitioners (NPs), physician assistants (PAs), nurse-midwives, clinical nurse specialists (CNSs), certified registered nurse anesthetists, clinical psychologists (CPs)*, and clinical social workers (CSWs)*.”  *CPs and CSWs have limitations.

Unfortunately, dietitians in private practice can only perform telehealth services if the beneficiary (the patient) is at an originating site.  This means patients must still go to their healthcare practitioner’s office to receive the service.  Private payers (non Medicare/Medicaid insurance) may have their own rules, but often Medicare is the example.

 You should check with your private payer for their rules if interested in telehealth over traditional face to face services.

Real time communication, as opposed to delayed communication like email, must be used unless in Alaska or Hawaii.  If billing, a modifier ‘GT’ or ‘GQ’ must be used.  The former states that the service was done “via interactive audio and video telecommunications systems” whereas the latter states it was done “via an asynchronous telecommunications system.”  (same reference link above)

Both the originating site and the distant site practitioner receive payment.


While it is important that communications remain secure, I had hoped telehealth would be implemented in a way that could save healthcare costs and improve access.  Since the originating site must be one of the aforementioned sites (assume for security, not sure), telehealth is still not as convenient as it could be.

A patient must still go to an originating site rather than being able to have the service done via webcam from the convenience of their home or their office.

On the plus side, distant site practitioners can partner with the aforementioned healthcare originating sites to provide covered services.  This DOES improve access for people in rural areas who may not have as easy access to specialists who are allowed to receive reimbursement for telehealth.

At Nutrition and Fitness Professional, LLC, we are available to work with healthcare practitioners who wish to refer their patients via telehealth for medical nutrition therapy (codes 97802, 97803, 97804) and use Google Meet as our secure HIPAA compliant video conferencing platform as well as other G Suite approved HIPAA compliant apps.

It is not necessary for the originating site to have access to G Suite in order for the service to be performed as the client only needs to click on a Google Calendar link.

For specific questions, please contact us.

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Why Follow-Ups are Necessary in Nutrition Therapy

It is utterly impossible for anyone to teach anyone everything they need to know about nutrition and have it stick on the first session.  It is also impossible to have counseling and behavior changes occur, question beliefs, motivations, feelings, and lack of motivations with regards to food and nutrition, lifestyle, and exercise in one session.

One of the biggest failures of clients is those who go from practitioner to practitioner getting opinion after opinion from only your objective information that you fill out on our initial intake forms.  You are more than a set of health statistics.  No one is going to get to know you and figure out what is going on without building a relationship.

Nutrition counseling should be compared to therapy or personal training.  Things often don’t change in one session.  This is especially important to realize for those who use food for reasons other than physical nourishment.  Yea, you know what to do.  Then why aren’t you doing it?  That’s what this is about.  I help you figure out why you do what you do.  I help resolve ambivalence to change.

I’m not saying that sometimes I may do an excellent job and you may learn everything (ha!), but if you came for weight loss, for example, sometimes things I say may not be interpreted or implemented correctly.  Sometimes you have behaviors that are getting in the way of your weight loss.

This leads to cop outs like: “Well I tried.”  Does one time of trying count?  Sure.  However, one session sometimes doesn’t lead to the types of changes you want.  If something isn’t working, it is a sign you need to talk about it.  Why didn’t it work?  Don’t blame yourself for not holding to the results.  Most of what I think I do is figure out how to tailor messages to the individual.  Sometimes it is shooting a moving target with a blindfold on based on questions you asked and hear the answers to direct me where to shoot.

It’s like playing Marco-Polo with one “Marco” and hearing one “Polo” and wondering why we didn’t run into each other in the swimming pool (that’s the only place I ever played that game).  You may change your position in life in the mean time and have everything change.  This happens often when college students join the work force.  Previously, they were walking around between classes all day on a large campus.  Now, they sit all day.

How likely is anyone going to shoot that moving target while blindfolded on the first try?  Maybe if we use the Force? 🙂

How will you or I know that you’ve interpreted something correctly without a follow-up?

Yes, it is an investment to come more than one time, but some of the alternatives aren’t so pretty.  It’s so much easier to change behaviors now before they lead to disease than later when they cost significant medical bills and your ability to live a happy, healthy life significantly decreases.  No one likes to change, but if you think about the future, sometimes changing now isn’t so bad in comparison.

Since “fear of disease” tends to not motivate the general population as much as it does people who study health, another way to put it is this: think how happy you might be once you reach your health goals.  When you’re in that place of health, you’ll feel happier about yourself, feel confident in your body, feel able to move about the world with ease.

When I’m working with personal training clients, they figure out my system.  Each time, we try to add an exercise, add weight, or add repetitions at an existing weight.  It is a steady progression, whatever we do, and it is easy to see how doing that gives them results.  With nutrition, the same thing is needed.  You need to make small yet important changes that you are comfortable or only slightly uncomfortable making.  Once you do them, you get motivated to keep making more changes.

It is difficult to help you make those changes when a client is seen only once and goes forth with some initial tools.  Changing your lifestyle takes work.  It isn’t fun to make changes, but why not revisit and figure out what is working and what isn’t?

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Batch Cooking: Low Motivation Required, Very High ROI for Nutritional Goals

One thing I have noticed many successful clients, busy professionals, and students do is batch cook.  Batch cooking means you make most of your meals on one day of the week and then just have to heat them up when you need them.

It makes portion controlling your food throughout the week easy, allowing you to stick to a certain predetermined calorie level as well as know what you have to do to increase or decrease your energy needs as your activity changes.

For example, Rob is a busy professional.  He makes all his chicken and potatoes on Sunday and just has to heat them up when he needs them throughout the week.  He doesn’t have to deal with cooking and the associated pot and pan scrubbing you have to deal with each night.  He just puts his dishes in the dishwasher.

Another example, Bertha wants to gain weight but is a busy graduate student and doesn’t have time to cook every night.  She can’t afford to eat out (or if this is you and you can, you can think of this as a way to save money).

She batch cooks all her beans, lentils, and rice on Sunday and just has to add vegetables and sauces and heat it up when ready to eat.  She can make it a different flavor every night if she cares to or use different vegetables.

When I was growing up, we made all our peanut butter sandwiches on Sunday and stuck them in the freezer.  They would thaw on the way to school and be ready to eat by 11:30a when we had lunch.

These techniques just require forethought and planning on the weekend, when you have the time, in order to make nutrition a priority in your life during the week.  Now you aren’t scrambling at lunch time figuring out what you’re going to eat.  You have a portion-controlled meal ready to eat when you need it that was cheap for you to make and has what you want in it.  What is to lose?

From a motivation standpoint, you just need to have motivation once during the week to meet your nutrition needs.  You don’t have to make decisions requiring motivation 21 times for 3 meals a day times 7 days a week.  People who struggle with motivation need to look at it from this perspective.

This isn’t just something people do who are dieting or have nutrition goals.  It is just a smart way of being time and motivation efficient in your life so you can be in control of what is important to you.

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Videos: Playground Workout

I occasionally go to the playground to do gymnastics stuff.  It is a nice change from lifting at the gym, swimming, biking, or running.  These are not my best displays of athleticism in any of the videos, as I was tired and not recovered that day from a previous workout.

I was also rushing myself because the sun was going to go down, so I didn’t warm up and did all this cold.  I also forgot to film the ballistic Anti-shrug on the parallel bars.  If you’re one of my clients, you know that’s one of my signature exercises.  Hopefully more videos to come.  I post here and on my YouTube channel.

I have three YouTube channels, but I have decided to use nutrfitnesspro as my main one to keep in line with my Twitter handle.  I also own my business name, Nutrition and Fitness Professional, LLC, as well as my personal one, Joey Gochnour.  I wish you could consolidate them into one channel, but they aren’t letting you do this yet, to my knowledge.

My vision is that future videos will be more educational, but I figured I needed to put something like this up on my website like other trainers do, essentially saying “look how athletic I am.”  If you really know me, you know I’m not that vain.  That said, I am pretty confident in athleticism.  There is a difference between being vain and confident in athleticism.  Vanity is about looks.

Speaking of vanity, I forgot to suck in my abs and flex constantly after a pump workout to give an unrealistic body image.  I focus on functional training.  Functional training means that if it doesn’t develop a functional adaptation, why do it?  If your adaptation from exercise is to not be able to move your arms and legs, risking injury for the sake of looking swollen, pumped, and muscled, achieving slower reaction times, decreased flexibility, decreased agility, and less maximum strength, then that is the antithesis of functional training.

Functional training is the smart man’s version of working out.  Aesthetics training can result in functional impairments on multiple fronts, depending on training style.  So, my philosophy is function first, and if aesthetics develop from that as a side effect, then that’s just icing on the cake.

Probably will do a video on this topic later…

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Nutrition Credential Comparison

Michael (Mike) J. Sandoz of MJS Nutrition created this excellent nutrition credential juxtaposition for a project during his dietetic internship.  To date, I have not seen any similar comparison of this caliber on the Internet of all the nutrition credentials out there.  It is important that the public know who to listen to when it comes to nutrition from in this industry, as everyone has their opinion, which is part of the problem!

Be sure to follow Mike on Facebook and Twitter.  I obtained permission from Mike to repost this on my blog for more public exposure of nutrition credentials.  Most clients are not going to go looking for the information.

Notice that some states require licensure to practice nutrition counseling (orange and red).  Yellow states require licensure if you want to become a healthcare provider for health insurance companies.  In all states, having an RD paves the pathway for licensure, but some states also allow the CNS credential to obtain a dietitian license.  If you have any questions, please comment!

MSandoz_Poster Nutrition Credentials Juxtaposed

Mike Sandoz Nutrition Credential Comparison

Nutrition Credential Comparison courtesy of Mike Sandoz

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My Fit Foods & SNAP Kitchen vs RD Private Services

Remember the story of the three little pigs?  One built his house of straw, one built his house of sticks, and the other built his house of bricks.  The big bad wolf came and blew everyone’s down except for the one who built his house of bricks.  The same can hold true with making nutrition choices and taking the easy way out.

My Fit Foods and SNAP Kitchen would fit in this story as the house of straw or house of sticks.  You can get a calorie-controlled, healthy proportioned set of meals through them.  The more food you buy, the more you pay.  Because larger people get more food than smaller people to maintain their weight, larger and taller people will pay more money at these places.

This is great for people who don’t have time to assemble meals themselves and are concerned with a weight goal or meeting a certain calorie level for exercise and sports.  They take the knowledge needed to assemble healthy meals that meet your needs out of the equation so that you can just be dependent on them for the rest of your life.

This is not much different than meal replacement systems like Nutrisystem, Herbalife, and Medifast.  It’s just food and not liquid supplements or powders.

I have seen the food bills for My Fit Foods and SNAP Kitchen.  For anywhere between $550 to $700 for three weeks, you can get meals (you could make yourself) already made for you in pre-portioned quantities to meet your goals.  If you don’t cheat, you’ll reach your goals.  This comes down to $183 to $233 per week in food for 1200-1800 Calories.

Guess how much I spend on food a week at the grocery store?  Anywhere from $30 to $70, depending on how much food I’m out of.  I also eat anywhere between 2700-3300 Calories per day as someone who is active most days of the week.  When I lost my weight, it was even less, usually closer to the $30 mark.

I’ve even lived on $20 for 5 days worth of meals when I had to do the food stamp challenge, and I still was consuming 2900 nutritious Calories per day.  Eating healthy is NOT expensive.  I do not know where this myth comes from.

Cooking your own meals, you’d save $150 per week, $600 per month, or about $7500 per year if you don’t rely on My Fit Foods, SNAP Kitchen, or other meal system for all your meals.  You could even go out to eat once or twice a week and STILL have plenty of money left over.

Many Millennials (born 1980s to early 2000s) eat out ALL the time.  They do not know how to cook or what they should include in meals for proper nutrition.  It doesn’t have to be gluten-free, organic, or non-GMO for it to be healthy either.

What happens when you quit any of these pre-made meal systems?  You could gain the weight back!  Most people probably don’t exercise considerably enough to eat whatever they want.  Meanwhile, you are lost for making food choices on your own or how to prepare food.  The principles and habits of weight management and fitness were not instilled for lasting change.

Now let’s compare these meal replacement systems to the cost of a typical visit with a registered dietitian.  Most RDs (or RDNs, same credential) charge anywhere from $75 to $200 or more per visit, depending on area they are located, education and experience, specialty, and the demographic they tend to work with.  This is about the same as what a psychotherapist charges or a massage therapist charges.

I list my prices on my website because I figure if you have to ask what the price is, it won’t be standard for everyone and probably assumed to be too expensive.

With an RD visit, you learn what you are doing with food and nutrition.  You gain confidence in your ability to prepare foods that meet your needs and wants.  It gives you the FREEDOM to eat the foods you want while still achieving the body type you want while paying SIGNIFICANTLY LESS than meal replacement systems.  You also invest in your own knowledge and get personalized information relative to your particular lifestyle and health history.

Chances are, you won’t have to meet with the RD weekly for a full year to get on track.  Most clients can get on track within a few sessions (1-5), depending on any barriers they must get past.  From a financial standpoint, making the time to consult with a professional is a HUGE return on investment (ROI).

With a visit to a registered dietitian, you are learning how to fish–not being given a fish dinner.  You are building a house of bricks.  It will take some initial time and effort, but once you get it, you’re good for life.  No one is going to blow your house down when you know how to build and repair a quality house of bricks.

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Used with permission by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

 

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I hope to use this platform as a way for potential clients and other professionals to get to know my philosophies and insights on popular nutrition and fitness related topics.  Stay tuned for updates!

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